Editing Forum (section)

=== Skins & home page design ===
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 | Text = With the move to Wikia there are several Monaco skin colors along with the Monobook skin. I've done some editing to the [[MediaWiki:Monaco-toolbox]] and [[MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar]] (may need to clear history and refresh to see them). With these changes, the Monaco skin has pretty much all the same links, menus, and tools that were previously found on asheron.info's sidebar and drop down menu. This will hopefully help make the site easier for those not signed in, as Monaco is the default.
<br><br>On the topic of skins - is it possible to change the default to Monobook, so the site would look more familiar to those not logged in? And if it is possible, do we want even want to make this change, or should we embrace and expand on the Monaco skin?
<br><br>A related topic - the home page. I think that we should consider a serious overhaul of the layout. The major changes I would like to see would be to move AC News & Wiki News to somewhere on the homepage, where they would get much more attention. I'd also consider merging the two into 'news'. I also think we could make some major revisions to the whole topic section, especially since the monaco sidebar menu can cover much of it.
<br><br>At the very least, the welcome and Getting Started sections should probably be edited or rewritten. And I think we could try changing the style of the boxes - from their current rounded edges to something more resembling our recent template changes.

--[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 17:37, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
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 | Text = Nice work with the menus on the sidebars.--{{User:Tlosk/SigR}} 22:47, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
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 | Text = See: [[User:An Adventurer/Sandbox]] for a more clear example of my idea for updating the home page.

--[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 18:02, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
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 | Text = I have added some more detail to my sandbox linked above. It's not by any means a final design though. I have designed this with the thought that by default, visitors will be in the new monaco skin and will thus be using the sidebar, which I added a lot to. And hopefully we can get the drop-down menu added back to the monobook skin, and that drop down menu can mirror the links and levels of the monaco sidebar menu.
<br><br>I'd like to hear some people's thoughts on the proposed design. I greatly reduced the number of main topics displayed. Are there any topics I removed that you think absolutely need to be there? Are there any topics that were never listed but you thought should be there?
<br><br>I left out links to current/previous/all patches from topics for now, mostly because I couldn't think of good icons to use. I think that there should definitely be a link to the current patch on the main page, but I am not sure we need the previous and all patches links there with them already contained on the sidebar menu. 
<br><br>I included [[Game Mechanics]] as a topic. My thought is that this page could be greatly expanded on, and that the current [[General Information]] page would be merged into it.
<br><br>I left out the [[Leveling Guide]] link as a main topic, but I figured that it would be linked to on [[New Player Guide]], [[Returning Player Guide]], [[Game Mechanics]], and [[Level Costs]], all of which are linked to on the main page, so it didn't need it's own link.
<br><br>I also cut out the whole welcome/getting started sections. I placed a short welcome blurb at the top with links to other pages, as seen on many wikis such as wikipedia. I figured that we could go into more detail on the [[Asheron's Call Community Wiki:Introduction]] page and if necessary, create a [[Getting Started]] page. And we could add more general information about the wiki at [[Asheron's Call Community Wiki:About]].

--[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 21:50, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
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 | Text = Lot of great stuff there, I can't reply in detail yet but I wanted to make a quick post to comment on a few things. The dynamicpagelists are extremely resource intensive and so we won't be able to use them (it's possible to use them in a limited fashion, but it's not
really worth it). It isn't possible to set monobook as the default, though I did specify the color scheme default so at least people won't have the dark scheme when they first come to the site. Also I'd suggest making a long term mockup that we can work on and improve over a few weeks and leave the main page as is until most people have made the transition and signed in at least once. We can put a link on the main page though to the mockup to invite broader feedback and suggestions. The issue with the drop downs in monobook is an extension that's installed that messes up the formatting, I have a request in to remove it so anytime now I should be able to turn that back on (although it's still a little borked in IE, I need to figure out how to fix that also).--{{User:Tlosk/SigR}} 00:59, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
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 | Text = I've put together a page at [[Asheron's Call Community Wiki]] --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 19:10, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
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 | Text = I have gone ahead an modified the main page.

* I have left the topics the same until there is some discussion on them.


* The whole welcome/getting started section was removed. It was mostly out of date, and hadn't really been modified since the wiki was created. The relevant info was moved to [[Asheron's Call Community Wiki:Introduction]]. 


* There is now a news section on the main page. I will work more to streamline our whole news section. The old links in the monobook skin sidebar should be removed, but I don't know how to edit that part.

--[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 16:44, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

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 | Text = Awesome work on everything, it looks great. I've been visiting some of the other wikis for ideas and am testing some things out but was trying to finish a map generator first and get some lingering issues from the move resolved. I was also thinking we could make a central hub for navigation where we basically link to almost everything so we can both expand on what is currently on the mainpage and also have a onestop place for people trying to find something (and also expose the nooks and crannies that can be difficult to find if you don't already know they exist). Also I will have a new wiki style forum set up in the next day or two and I'll backfill it with the existing content from here (I may possibly be able to restore our original forum content as well if I can get it running locally). --{{User:Tlosk/Sig}} 15:47, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
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 | Text = I have a suggestion for the central hub. The article [[Asheron's Call]]. Until I created the page for the home page updates, it didn't exist on the wiki. Right now it is just a stub, but I was thinking that it would be a great place to have links to lots of various content. Currently, [[Asheron's Call]] is linked to on the home page in the welcome statement, and it is on the monaco-sidebar with the alias Game Info (one of the first tier topics) so it will be easy to access. And it is probably the broadest topic article, since it can cover all things of AC1 and AC2. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 18:19, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
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