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=== Unfinished Business === ==== Discussion ==== {{Post | Indent = | To = | Text = None of the themed markers for this update have been found - if there is a theme this time. Last month we had 5 themed and 5 not. Looking at the list of unused titles added in Shifting Tactics, the following could be themes to look for: # Daredevil - Hard to reach places that require difficult jumps or are surrounded by creatures. Or evil/shadowy places, focusing on the "devil" # Spelunker - underground in caves/dungeons # Party Goer - Festival grounds/festival stones/casinos/chess/mini games # Crater Crasher - crater sites - old shadow spire locations, the major volcanos, OP, all the craters in the south direlands --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 13:59, 11 February 2009 (CST) }} {{Post | Indent = : | To = | Text = Update: I was able to locate the slaughterhouse and saadia's retreat locations using the MakeMeAMap program. I do not see any other landscape locations using this method. Now, last month, 3 of the locations evaded detection from cell.dat cracks - perhaps turbine has found out what caused this and is able to reproduce it. Or perhaps it merely happened again by coincidence. My thoughts are that this month the theme is underground - that is, dungeons. I would guess there is still 1 landscape marker, but it is not being picked up by the mapping program. I have an idea on what dungeons to check. The location near Plateau village is where one buys the key used in the Inner Dungeon near Plateau. And another location is outside Saadia's Retreat. Both the Inner Dungeon and Saadia's Retreat are dungeons from the Explorer/Walking Boots quest. It may be a good idea to check the 20 alloy piece dungeons. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 15:54, 11 February 2009 (CST)<br><br>edit: I updated the [[Undead Mechanic Quest]] with a location map + dungeon map links --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 16:23, 11 February 2009 (CST) }} {{Post | Indent = :: | To = | Text = I just finished my check of the alloy dungeons. After thoroughly exploring all 20 dungeons I did not find any explorer markers. The good news is I have all the alloy pieces and can finish the guide for the undead mechanic quest. The bad news is I am unsure of where to check next. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 21:22, 13 February 2009 (CST) }} {{Post | Indent = ::: | To = | Text = I found the 6th marker, and it did not belong to a set. I would guess that the remaining 4 do not belong to a set either. I'm going to stop searching by theme now. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 19:37, 14 February 2009 (CST) }} {{Post | Indent = :::: | To = | Text = With the 7th Marker, can't help but notice we got 3 Markers very well hidden on towers/structures/forts (can't be seen from outside), 3 directly near dungeons, and 1 near portals (the SE Dire Crater one). Can't see a theme to neither the tower structures nor the dungeons, but going to check Towers & forts, if I find the time. The tusker one is btw the first one not on the mainland, which means not just mainland POIs are candidates for Markers... sigh. And there's lots of Towers & dungeons in Dereth... --[[User:Sanddh|Sanddh]] 1:37, 16 February 2009 (CET) }} {{Post | Indent = ::::: | To = | Text = I can see a lot of patterns that apply to 2 or 3 of them, but each new marker found adds new patterns or breaks old ones. I would say that most of the patterns are not intentional, and it is just the human brain doing what it does best. But here at the patterns I see: * 3 or 4 are just outside of themed dungeons. Saadia's Reatreat - Walking Boots dungeon. Brood Hive - Olthoi Armor dungeon. Izji Qo's temple - falatacot temple quest dungeon. Tusker Gauntlet - it is not a theme like tusker tusks, but there is the general theme of tusker hunting dungeons on those isles. * 5 are near points from last month. Slaughterhouse is near the teth mountain. Plateau is near Lake Lithanen. Brood hive is near the olthoi north cliff. Saadia's is near the Lin mountain. Tusker gauntlet is near Dryreach. In fact, Izji Qo's temple is also not far from Teth. The only one from this month that isn't near an old one is the SE dires crater - it is pretty far away from withered beach. * 2 are in towers - slaughterhouse and plateau. * All the markers are in outer areas - there are none in the central area of dereth. But like I said, each new one found makes coming up with a theme more difficult. The Crater ruined the nearby old markers idea. Tusker ruined the mainland only, and the dungeon markers belonging to a set of themed dungeons. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 15:31, 16 February 2009 (CST) }} {{Post | Indent = | To = | Text = On Feb 25th NoWorries posted the following clue for the two markers that remain unfound: :Both remaining markers are near portals :Both markers come very close to making equilateral triangles with other markers :Both of these triangles would share an already found marker to make these triangles, yet one of the remaining markers is currently on snow and one is not. And at both markers you can see water. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 16:35, 25 February 2009 (CST) }} {{Post | Indent = : | To = | Text = For anyone interested, using perfect equilateral triangles, with 18 markers available, I count 306 possible unique triangles that can be drawn. For some of these, the 3rd point would be off the game map, in the ocean, or otherwise unreachable. More would not be near water. But that is still a lot of possible locations, especially when NoWorries said "very close to making equilateral triangle" which leaves some room to slide points around. My math was (17 * 2) + (16 * 2) + (15 * 2) + (14 * 2) + (13 * 2) + (12 * 2) + (11 * 2) + (10 * 2) + (9 * 2) + (8 * 2) + (7 * 2) + (6 * 2) + (5 * 2) + (4 * 2) + (3 * 2) + (2 * 2) + (1 * 2) = 306 --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 00:14, 26 February 2009 (CST) }} {{Post | Indent = : | To = | Text = I've generated a small map that shows the currently snow covered areas. The markers don't stand out as well on it, but maybe it'll help. --[[User:Widgeon|Widgeon]] 08:17, 26 February 2009 (CST) }} {{Post | Indent = | To = | Text = Originally Posted by NoWorries on Feb 27, 2009 :The portals the remaining markers are near are green. :One and only one of the coordinates is less then 10. }} ==== Snow Covered Map ==== {{Map Point Plus | Base Map = Point Map 512 2009-02.jpg | Points = {{MPP Loc | 42.6 | N | 57.4 | E | Dot | 42.6N, 57.4E - Shifting Tactics (Mountain Climber)}} {{MPP Loc | 03.2 | N | 71.2 | W | Dot | 3.2N, 71.2W - Shifting Tactics (Mountain Climber)}} {{MPP Loc | 52.3 | S | 67.9 | E | Dot | 52.3S, 67.9E - Shifting Tactics (Mountain Climber)}} {{MPP Loc | 78.5 | S | 28.2 | E | Dot | 78.5S, 28.2E - Shifting Tactics (Mountain Climber)}} {{MPP Loc | 65.9 | N | 15.1 | E | Dot | 65.9N, 15.1E - Shifting Tactics (Mountain Climber)}} {{MPP Loc | 42.2 | N | 33.7 | E | Dot | 42.2N, 33.7E - Shifting Tactics}} {{MPP Loc | 34.6 | N | 41.6 | E | Dot | 34.6N, 41.6E - Shifting Tactics}} {{MPP Loc | 45.3 | N | 26.7 | W | Dot | 45.3N, 26.7W - Shifting Tactics}} {{MPP Loc | 07.9 | S | 73.1 | E | Dot | 7.9S, 73.1E - Shifting Tactics}} {{MPP Loc | 85.9 | S | 79.1 | W | Dot | 85.9S, 79.1W - Shifting Tactics}} {{MPP Loc | 40.6 | N | 41.3 | W | Dot | 40.6N, 41.3W - Unfinished Business}} {{MPP Loc | 12.8 | S | 58.9 | W | Dot | 12.8S, 58.9W - Unfinished Business}} {{MPP Loc | 00.2 | N | 80.3 | W | Dot | 0.2N, 80.3W - Unfinished Business}} {{MPP Loc | 53.6 | S | 76.6 | E | Dot | 53.6S, 76.6E - Unfinished Business}} {{MPP Loc | 51.8 | N | 59.6 | E | Dot | 51.8N, 59.6E - Unfinished Business}} {{MPP Loc | 78.1 | S | 48.7 | W | Dot | 78.1S, 48.7W - Unfinished Business}} {{MPP Loc | 09.9 | S | 86.3 | E | Dot | 9.9S, 86.3E - Unfinished Business}} {{MPP Loc | 11.5 | N | 37.9 | E | Dot | 11.5N, 37.9E - Unfinished Business}} {{MPP Loc | 07.9 | N | 50.8 | E | Dot | 7.9N, 50.8E - Unfinished Business}} {{MPP Loc | 45.6 | S | 14.0 | E | Dot | 45.6S, 14.0E - Unfinished Business}} }} ==== Unfinished Business Checked Locations ==== '''Locations based on NoWorries 2nd clue:''' * Metos (Tufa) * North Tumerok Vanguard Outpost * Precarious Sojourn '''Locations based on NoWorries clue:''' :(format = Location (Coords) [if needed] - ''body of water'') * Amperehelion Vault - ''Black Hills swamp'' * Black Spawn Den (Teth) - ''Sea'' * Blackmire Swamp locations ** A Ruin (13S, 47.3E) ** Burun Cavern ** Cells of the Black Book ** Deserted Ruin ** Hidden Entrance ** Incunabula Vault (duplicate entrance) ** Mossy Cave ** Reedshark Lair ** Shoushi Portal (14.7S, 46.6E) ** Swamp Gardens ** Swamp Temple ** Tainted Grotto ** Watery Grotto * Cave (18.4N, 58.1E) - ''Lake Blessed'' * Cursed Swamp - ''River Prosper'' * Dungeon Muddy - ''River Prosper'' * East Direlands Swamp Locations ** Burun Cathedral ** Font of the Eternal Harvester ** Incunabula Vault ** Mosswart Worship Cavern ** Sclavus Keep ** Small Complex ** Swamp Temple ** Vesayen Isles Portal * Falcon Clan Training Camp - ''Sea'' * Green Mire Grave - ''River Prosper'' * Grievous Vault - ''Uziz oasis'' * Halaetan Isles ** Corcosi Island *** Beacon Tower *** Cataracts of Sabella portal *** Fiun Outpost/Silyun portals *** Penguin Den *** Sanamar/Royal Hall area portals/dungeons *** Thrungus Hovels (4) ** Isle of Ruin *** Abayar's Laboratory *** Abhorrent Vault *** Augmentation Realm *** Coral Caves *** Dark Design *** Egg Orchard *** Feeding Tubes *** Forgotted Chasm *** Insatiable Vault *** Lugian Ice Tunnels *** Moarsmen Temple *** Path of the Blind *** Penguins Cave Hatchery *** Ruschk Icehold *** Sanamar Portal (Eastwatch) *** Silyun Portal (Plains of Ruin) *** Temple of the Black Spear *** Thrungos Hole *** Undead Temple *** Viamontian Royal Prison ** Lotila Island *** Dericost Ruin *** Sanamar Portal (Westwatch) *** Small Empyrean Vault *** Thrungus Den *** Viamontian Garrison *** Waterfall Cave ** Traitor's Island *** Eater Pit *** Frozen Cenotaph *** Heart of Madness *** Hidden City *** Karlun's Fort *** Lola's Den *** Marauder's Lair *** Plains of Ruin Portal *** Ruschk Burial Mound *** Silyun Chapterhouse ** Vanguard Isle *** Cannibal Caverns *** Frozen Library *** Grael's Chamber *** Icy Hideout *** Ruined Empyrean Vault *** Ruschk Iceberg *** Silyun Portal (Fiun Outpost) * Inner Sea Locations ** Carved Caves ** Dark Tree Crystal Mine ** Desert March (both locations) ** Halls of Metos Duplicate entry (12.8N, 12.2W) ** Lost Desert Archive ** Malignant Tabernacle ** Moarsman Temple (Danby's) ** Northern Power Forge ** Recovered Temple ** Two Portals: Desert Ridge Border/Hilltop (72.7S, 14E) ** Tumerok Outpost (23.7N, 36.6W) ** Western Power Forge * Lost Coastal Archive - ''Sea'' * Lugian Mines (73.9S, 39E) - ''Lake Thrasyl'' * Lytelthorpe Portal (Rithwic) - ''River Prosper'' * Marae Lassel Locations - ''Sea/river as body of water'' ** Ahurenga area portals/dungeons ** Bluespire area portals/dungeons ** Martine's Holding ** Moarsmen Temple ** Tumerok Cavern (Tanae's spear quest) ** Olthoi Arcade * Mask Clan Training Camp - ''Sea'' * Mistress Halmera's Dig - ''Sea'' * Mountain Halls (10.2N, 56.7W) - ''Sea'' * Olthoi Brood Hive (71.2N, 60.3E) - ''Sea'' * Olthoi Brood Hive (66.5N, 70.6E) - ''Sea'' * Olthoi Horde Nest (48.9N, 12.9W) - Unnamed Lake * Pheraion's Sanctum - ''Black Hills swamp'' * Rithwic Crypt - ''River Prosper'' * Temple of the Stirring Shadow - ''Sea'' * Tumerok Base (9N, 65.8W) - ''Sea'' * Tumerok Fortress Portal (Overlord's Sword) - ''Sea'' * Tumerok Mines (7.9N, 61.3W) * Tumerok Post (12.2N, 68.2W) - ''Sea'' * Tusker Shrine (20-40) - ''river prosper headwaters'' * Undergound City (Exterior) - ''Lake Blessed'' * Uziz - ''Uziz oasis'' * Vissidal Island Portal (70.2N, 65.6E) - ''Sea'' * Yanshi Portal (36.8S, 12.2E) - ''Burun Mire/Inner Sea'' * Yaraq Cove/Tufa Oasis locations ** A Red Rat Lair ** Aerbax's Laboratory ** Arena ** Darkened Halls ** Drudge Hovel ** Empyrean Cloister ** Sand Shallow ** Sea Temple Catacombs ** South Esper Portal ** Under Cove Crypt ** Yaraq Tunnels '''Towns:''' * Ayan Baqur * Bandit Castle * Beach Fort * Candeth Keep * Cragstone * Crater Village * Kor-Gusha * Mayoi * Qalaba'r * Sanamar & Royal Hall * Sawato * Timaru * Tou-Tou * Mountain Retreat * New Yanshi * Old Yanshi * Wai Jhou * Zaikhal '''POIs:''' * '''Misc POIs:''' ** Abandoned Arena, outside (ruins at Colosseum) ** Abandoned Observatory (Near Candeth Keep) ** Advocate/Sentinel statues - Cragstone ** Aerlinthe: Inner and outer coastline, Lighthouses, Undead Town, Tent, etc. Not crater & inner island structures ** <b><font color=red>(Theme:Crater Crasher)</font></b> Aerlinthe: all 7 craters/calderas ** <b><font color=red>(Theme:Daredevil)</font></b> Altars of Bael'Zharon: Old Talisman ** Anadil's Tomb (D Note portal) ** Baishi Fort & Tower ** Black Hill ** <b><font color=red>(Theme:Crater Crasher)</font></b> Caulcano (center of Caul) ** Chalicmere Castle ** Chapel Blackspire ** <b><font color=red>(Theme:Crater Crasher)</font></b> Cragstone fallen shadow spire (both sections) ** Destroyed settlement, 19.8N, 3.2W (NW of Zaikhal) ** Direland Rats Cave ** Direlands Desert Edge portal drop ** Drudge Tower near AB (47, 86) with SSK chest ** Eastham Beach POIs - 2 beach houses, dock, campfire, lumberjack camp, archmage building, twin portal bunker ** <b><font color=red>(Theme:Party Goer)</font></b> Festival Grounds: Yanshi ** <b><font color=red>(Theme:Party Goer)</font></b> Festival Stones: Yanshi ** <b><font color=red>(Theme:Crater Crasher)</font></b> Gaerlan's Fallen Citadel (exterior of crater only) ** Hilltop Tower (hilltop portal drop) ** Ithaenc Cathedral ** Leikotha's Crypt ** Menhir Rings Marescent Plateau (all 5) ** <b><font color=red>(Theme:Crater Crasher)</font></b> Mount Lethe (outside area) ** Northern Camp, 85N, 28.5E (LS, stone platform, tent) ** North Road Outpost, 71.9N, 38E ** Renegade Camp, 17.1N, 4.8W (NW of Zaikhal) ** Riverbend Tower ** <b><font color=red>(Themes:Crater Crasher, Daredevil)</font></b> Shadow March (blackened lands north of Teth) ** <b><font color=red>(Themes:Crater Crasher, Daredevil)</font></b> Shadowspire Craters: Eastham, Cragstone, Arwic (3), Heartland, North Dires ** Small Black Hill ** Tumerok Fort, 10.5N, 68.8W (near teth) ** Undead Gharu'ndim Village, 19.8N, 3.2W (NW of Zaikhal) ** Undead Mechanic ** Viamontian Camp, 5.9N, 69.1W (near teth) ** Wilderness Fortress, 23.5N, 7.7W (NW of Zaikhal) ** Wilderness Fortress, 22.5N, 10.5W (NW of Zaikhal) ** Wilderness Fortress, 34.9N, 17.8W (NW of Zaikhal) ** Wildernes Peddler, SW inner sea coast (73.4S, 36.1W) * '''Al-Jalima Area POIs:''' ** A Mysterious Cave (Exterior) ** Abandoned Tent (7.3N, 7.7E) ** Basket and Pot Collection (9.3N, 5.7E) ** Burial Temple (Exterior) ** Desert Path Markers (series of standing stones) ** Forbidden Crypts (Exterior) ** Lonely Archmage ** Lonely Weaponsmith ** Monouga House (8.9N, 4.3E) ** Monuga House (10.3N, 6.0E) ** Petroglyph (6.9N, 2.9E) ** Shadow Armor Smith/LS (7.1N, 3.0E) ** Skeleton Villa (6.7N, 6.7E) ** Tazal al-Ashfai (Mage Academy NPC) ** Three Standing Stones (8.3N, 9.0E) ** Two Standing Stones (7.1N, 4.1E) ** Toppled Column (5.8N, 4.8E) ** Wisp Stones (6.6N, 5.0E) * '''A'mun Desert area POIs:''' ** Halls of Metos (Exterior) ** Mu-Miyah temple (5.0S, 1.7E) ** Peddler Tent (4.8S, 2.9W) * '''Esper Mountain Range/Northwestern Dereth area POIs:''' ** Banderling Fortress (Camping Mastery Chest Fort) ** Banderling Camp (Fire Spear - near camping mastery fort) ** Crater Caldera ** Crater Caves dungeon (Exterior) ** Master Mage: Celdiseth ** Northern Outpost, 75.5N, 10.5E + nearby lake ** Northern Point Outpost, 93.7N, 7.7E ** Paul & Babe ** Portal Space Dungeon (Exterior)/Aun Camp ** Roaming Bowyer North Beach Camp, 86N, 27.7W * '''Heartland/[[Plains of Gaerwel]] area POIs:''' ** Adventurer's Haven ** Desert Ridge Border portal drop tower ** Drudge Barn near Crag (24.2N, 45.2E) ** Drudge House near Crag (22.8N, 45.7E) ** Dungeon Nye Exterior ** Empty Castle (17.8N, 39.2E) ** Enchanter's Hideout (SoCS NPC building) ** Fort Witshire ** Heartland Portal Drop ** Grilhud the Hermit ** Merchant Hut (8.9N, 43.3E) ** Nuhmudira's Mansion * '''Tiofor Woods area POIs:''' ** Banderling/mosswart meeting (33.7N, 13.5E) ** Banderling Tower (38.2N, 7.1E) ** Banderling Tower (31.6N, 16.7E) ** Empyrean/Shadow Temple (Power Station) ** Giant Flower (59.5N, 1.7E) ** Hidden Portal Valley (54.3N, 4.1W) ** Hidden Undead Valley (55.0N, 3.4W) ** Log Cabin/Peddler (31.2N, 19.8E) ** Lumberjack camp (33.2N, 24.0E) ** Mite Bunker (41.4N, 19.8W) ** Rat/Lich Rocks (52.4N, 1.3E) ** Tiofor Woods Shadowspire crater ** Tumerok Tree Fort ** Undead Temple (51.9N, 0.6E) ** Wilderness Archmage/LS (37.7N, 1.2W) ** Wilderness Archmage/LS/Bandit Castle Portal (46.0N, 8.0W) ** Wilderness Tower/LS/Holt Portal (52.1N, 3.1E) ** Wood Golem Gathering/LS (41.1N, 18.7W) * '''Samsur Area POIs:''' ** Crater/Oasis (0.7S, 22.0E) ** Desert Mines (Exterior) ** Dungeon Binar (Exterior) ** Eastern Area POIs - All POIs in the 3 tower/desert mine area * '''Southern Osteth Plains are POIs:''' ** Ayn Tyan Battle field (aka hill of bones) ** Ayn Tyan Watchtower (42.5S, 54.0E) ** Banderling Fort (4.93S, 45.6E) ** Camp Site (53.1S, 37.8E) ** Desert's Edge Archmage/tower/LS (31.5S, 37.1E) ** Dungeon of Tatters/Ancient Town ** Empyrean Home/LS (36.1S, 44.3E) ** Former Essence of Artifice Location (38.3S, 34.4E) ** Sho Building/LS (51.3S, 40.3E) ** Skeleton Fort (45.2S, 39.1E) ** "Strange Hill" (44.7S, 40.1E) ** Tower of the Given Heart (35.1S, 33.6E) * '''Yushad Ridge area POIs''' * '''Zaikhal Area POIs:''' ** Drudge Camp (17.2N, 1.8E) ** Halls of the Helm (Exterior) - including stones and armoredillos ** LS (15.8N, 2.1E) ** Row of Pillars (south of Suntik Plateau) ** Standing Stones (16.0N, 1.8E) ** Stone Column (17.7N, 1.8E) ** Suntik Village/Plateau '''Dungeons:''' * A Cave (Eastham) * Adventurer's Haven * Banderling Ruin (outside only) - near obsidian span * Bone Lair * Crater Caves * Crypt of Ashen Tears * Daiklos Dungeon (outside only) * Dungeon Nye * Dungeon of Tatters * Eastham Sewer * Empyrean Garrison * Enkindled Souls * Filo's Doom * Glenden Wood Dungeon * Halls of the Helm (outside only) * Hunter's Leap (outside only) * Inner Dungeon * Lakeside Lair * Lost Garden Ruins * Mount Naipenset * Mountain Keep * Nuhmudira's Dungeon * Old Mine * Phyntos Menace * Saadia's Retreat * Seaside Lair * Simple Tower * Small Ice Cave * Smuggler's Hideaway * Thieve's Den * Tomb of the Dead * Trothyr's Rest
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