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=== Secrets of the Apostates ===
==== Found Markers ====
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| 33.9 | N | 56.6 | E | Exmark | 33.9N, 56.6E - Secrets of the Apostates (Crater Crasher)
| 15.3 | N | 68.7 | W | Exmark | 15.3N, 68.7W - Secrets of the Apostates (Crater Crasher)
| 66.0 | N | 12.6 | E | Exmark | 66.0N, 12.6E - Secrets of the Apostates (Crater Crasher)
| 64.0 | S | 63.8 | W | Exmark | 64.0S, 63.8W - Secrets of the Apostates (Crater Crasher)
| 94.8 | S | 94.8 | W | Exmark | 94.8S, 94.8W - Secrets of the Apostates (Crater Crasher)
| 89.9 | N | 46.4 | E | Exmark | 89.9N, 46.4E - Secrets of the Apostates
| 64.2 | S | 97.9 | E | Exmark | 64.2S, 97.9E - Secrets of the Apostates
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==== Discussion ====
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| Text = All the Crater Crasher markers have been discovered, and we are now back to the usual futile attempt to find the stand-alone markers. There will be some confusion this month as we missed two from last month. For now, all stand-alone markers should be listed from this current patch unless we get developer confirmation that a marker was added in April.
I have used Cell Converter and MakeMeAMap. The only changes shown on actual land are in Baishi (new PvP thing), Zaik (new quest), and a large area of the direlands near the crystalline crag. I have not yet investigated this big change, but I assume it has something to do with either the new Zaik quest or the updates at the Crag. It is possible that a new marker is hidden there, as the area is 14 large landblocks. However, AC explorer shows no existing POIs of any kind in this area, nor do I recall any being there.
--[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 20:26, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
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| Text = That area is the exit of the [[Crystalline Portal (130+)]] dungeon.  No exploration markers in it.
--[[User:Widgeon|Widgeon]] 20:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
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| Text = I am fairly sure the freebooter keep marker is new to this month, it is unlikely I would have missed it last patch when I was scanning for markers at the keep. I have placed it under may until a dev comment tells me to do otherwise, or someone can confirm they saw it in april. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 15:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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| Text = I am out of ideas on where to look for the remaining two. The only thing I can think of is looking at the total marker map, there are a few spots that lack any markers. These areas include: most of the [[A'mun Desert]], the [[Yushad Ridge]], the [[Blackmire Swamp]], the grasslands between the Yushad and the snowflake mountains, the [[Tiofor Woods]], the [[Halaetan Isles]] and the wooded/plateau area around danby's. There is of course nothing that states the devs want to evenly distribute markers across the land, but I don't have any better ideas.
As for the two markers from last month, I still think one of them ''might'' be related to Grael, but as you can see from the checked locations, Grael related POIs are all but exhausted. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 15:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
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==== Secrets of the Apostates Checked Locations ====
'''Crater Crasher'''
* Shadow Spire Craters
** Arwic(3) '''** Marker Found'''
** Khayyaban
** Sawato
** Eastham
** Tufa (3)
** Tou-Tou
** Blackmire Swamp
** Tiofor Woods
** A'mun Desert/Yushad Ridge
** Heartland/Hermit Hill
** Northern Direlands
** Cragstone Fallen Shadow Spire craters (both sections)
* Mt. Lethe caldera
* Tufa Town Crater
* Shadow March '''** Marker Found'''
* Samsur Oasis
* Mount Esper Crater '''** Marker Found'''
* Aerlinthe Craters '''** Marker Found, not part of set'''
* Tusker Emporium Volcano/Crater
* Old Yanshi ruins
* Mini Vulcano on [[Ulgrim's Island]]
* [[Patriarch Valley]]
* Center of the OP '''** Marker Found'''
* Center of Caul '''** Marker Found'''
* Aerbax Holding Crater in OP
'''Other POIs'''
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=== What Once was Lost ===
''Leaving in main talk till markers are discovered''
==== Found Markers ====
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| 86.9 | N | 58.8 | E | Exmark | 86.9N, 58.8W - What Once was Lost
| 81.4 | N | 24.5 | E | Exmark | 81.4N, 24.5E - What Once was Lost
| 37.3 | S | 67.0 | W | Exmark | 37.3S, 67.0W - What Once was Lost
| 76.8 | S | 93.8 | E | Exmark | 76.8S, 93.9E - What Once was Lost
| 74.0 | N | 28.5 | W | Exmark | 74.0N, 28.5W - What Once was Lost
| 55.7 | N | 74.8 | W | Exmark | 55.7N, 74.8W - What Once was Lost
| 02.6 | N | 95.2 | E | Exmark | 2.6N, 95.2E  - What Once was Lost
| 01.6 | N | 36.6 | E | Exmark | 1.6N, 36.6E  - What Once was Lost
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==== Discussion ====
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| Text = Checking Grael & Mukkir dungeons
--[[User:Sanddh|Sanddh]] 15:08, 1 May 2009 (CET)
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| Text = Seems to me, the Markers are in far more "dangerous" places then last patches. And for the first time, one which needs "flagging" (the DI one). Also (See map), the Markers are more on the outer borders of Dereth. I'm out of Mukkir/Grael clues. So will start checking "dangerous" area POIs, on Caul, Isle of Ruins, Vissidal, Linthe etc.
--[[User:Sanddh|Sanddh]] 14:36, 3 May 2009 (CET)
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  | Text = It looks like we have 4 Grael locations found, and 3 non-themed locations found. I'd assume the following: There is at least 1 more grael location, bringing the total to 5. There is no official theme, because there are not enough markers left for 5 themed ones.
  | Text = The Markers are now sorted by the patch they were introduced. I did a grouping by location and a first attempt to find a more efficient route to grab m all (found here: [[User:Sanddh/Sandbox#Dereth Exploration Markers Efficient Route]]), and would like to put it on this page so others can work on it. The article is already very very long, anyone got any ideas how to integrate the two ways of presenting all the Markers? --[[User:Sanddh|Sanddh]] 02:48, November 20, 2009 (CET)
 
I have not yet spent time looking for markers because I am still a little burned out from the last few batches. I think the exterior map locations is a good theme to go with. Caul, the Halaetans, and Vissidal are all places I would check. They also all have a few Grael themed locations, some of which may still be unchecked. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 13:24, 5 May 2009 (CDT)
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  | Text = The Tusker Island one, near drop, might be another pattern? Since the Vaeshok one is near DI drop, the new ML one next to the drop from Danby? Island drops? Checked Linthe from top to bottom, but nogo. Though I'm using the item search keys, so might have missed one. And yah.. I'm slightly burned out too...
  | Text = I suggest that we place your guide at [[Dereth Exploration/Markers by Efficiency]] or some other appropriate title, and we move the current listing to [[Dereth Exploration/Markers by Month]]. Then we place links to both in the walk through --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 16:08, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
--[[User:Sanddh|Sanddh]] 22:26, 5 May 2009 (CET)
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==== What Once was Lost Checked Locations ====
'''Grael Hint (and Mukkir associated)'''
* Rusck Aspect of Grael (level<100) related
** [[Lord Pyrovor]] (72.8N, 25.0W)
** [[Dericost Vault]] (exterior)
** [[Ruschk-Infested Black Spear Temple]] '''**Marker Found'''
** Grael's Chamber, alternate entrance (86.2N, 54.1W)
* Shadow Aspect of Grael (level 101-150) related
** [[Abbess Zik'Lir]]
** [[Falatacot Vault]] (exterior)
** [[Shadow-Infested Black Spear Temple]] '''**Marker Found'''
** [[Grael's Chamber]], alternate entrance (Shadow March)
* Mukkir Aspect of Grael (level>150) related
** [[Varetha]]
** [[Black Ferah's Vault]] (exterior)
** [[Mukkir Infested Black Spear Temple]] '''**Marker Found'''
** [[Grael's Chamber]], alternate entrance (Vaeshok's Cave) '''**Marker Found'''
* Totem Gateway/Helmet quests
** Abyssal Totem Gateway (Dark Isle)
** Black Totem Gateway (Caul)
** White Totem Gateway (Isle of Ruin)
* Whispering Blade Grael/Mukkir related locations
** Pheraion's Sanctum (59.8S, 75.1W)
** [[White Spear's Cave]] & surrounding island
** [[Altar Nest]] on [[Vissidal]] (exterior)
* Rossu Morta Grael/Mukkir related locations
** [[Black Spear Summoning Chamber]] on [[Vissidal]] (exterior)
* Gems of Grael Quest
** [[Edobar the Esoteric]]
** [[Gallatria du Ressetta]]
** [[Ssavish]]
** [[Lost Coastal Archive]]
** [[Lost Desert Archive]]
** [[Frozen Cenotaph]]
* [[Mukkir Orb]]
** [[Master Vaserio's Dig]] (100+, 54.2S, 78.6W) - exterior
** [[Mistress Gabille's Dig]] (80-99, 8.5N, 88.9W) - exterior
** [[Mistress Halmera's Dig]] (60-79, 8.6N, 58.6W) - exterior
** [[Master Alizari's Dig]]  (4-59, 19.4N, 43.3W) - exterior
* [[Shade of Farelaith]] and [[Temple of Stirring Shadows]] (exterior)
* [[Black Spear Temple]] on [[Obsidian Plains]] (exterior)
* [[Repository]] on [[Caul]] - exterior
* [[Small Fledgling Mukkir Nest]] in Shoushi, Yaraq and Holtburg
* [[Targor's Cave]]
* [[The Dark Spiral]]
* [[Lord Marsan's Battlefield]] with [[Lord Marsan's Log Book]] on the ground at 17.0N 68.1W.
* [[Temple of the Black Spear]] (Shattered Out-Lands)
* [[Shadow Breach]] near Arwic (exterior)
* Temple of Xik Minru, exterior, entrance
'''Portal Drop Point Areas'''
* [[Aphus Lassel]] drop/[[Oolutanga's Refuge]] '''**Marker Found'''
* [[Central Tuatara Plains Portal]] drop '''**Marker Found'''
* [[Xi Ru's Island]] drop and [[Chapel of Xi Ru]]
* [[Asheron's Island]] drop and [[Asheron's Castle]]
* [[Caul]] drop and surrounding plateau
* Halaetan Isles Drop Points
** Sanamar drop area
** Silyun drop area
** Fiun Outpost drop area
** Eastwatch drop area
** Westwatch drop area
** Cataracts of Sabella drop area
** Isle of Ruin drop area
* [[Isle of Tears]] drop, from Cragstone and from Underground City, coastline checked
* [[Mountain Shortcut]] drop
* Eotensfang/Bandit Castle Portal drops
* [[Vesayen Isles]] drop (portal from near Bandit Castle)
* [[Eastham Beach]] drop (portal from near Vesayen Isles drop)
* [[High Mountain Valley]] drop area
* [[Desert Ridge Border]] drop area
* [[Hilltop]] drop area
* Mt. Lethe Recall drop area
* Bur Recall drop area + Dereth return portal drop area
* [[Freebooter]] Isle drop area
'''Changed Landblock Locations'''
* [[Northwatch Castle]] '''**Marker Found'''
* Tree (65.8N, 49.6E) + surrounding area
* [[Freebooter Keep]]
* [[Moarsman City]], partial scouting complete
'''Other POIs'''
* Caul Island POIs: [[Nightmare Gate Fortress]] and others
* [[Ulgrim's Island]], the island with the cottage and the one with the small golems
* Viamont Fort/Alchemy Table (Shattered Out-Lands)
* Rushck Camp/Ice Totem (Shattered Out-Lands)
* Linvak Node (near High Mountain Valley)


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Latest revision as of 16:10, 20 November 2009

The Markers are now sorted by the patch they were introduced. I did a grouping by location and a first attempt to find a more efficient route to grab m all (found here: User:Sanddh/Sandbox#Dereth Exploration Markers Efficient Route), and would like to put it on this page so others can work on it. The article is already very very long, anyone got any ideas how to integrate the two ways of presenting all the Markers? --Sanddh 02:48, November 20, 2009 (CET)

I suggest that we place your guide at Dereth Exploration/Markers by Efficiency or some other appropriate title, and we move the current listing to Dereth Exploration/Markers by Month. Then we place links to both in the walk through --An Adventurer 16:08, November 20, 2009 (UTC)



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