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| | Text = I suggest that we place your guide at [[Dereth Exploration/Markers by Efficiency]] or some other appropriate title, and we move the current listing to [[Dereth Exploration/Markers by Month]]. Then we place links to both in the walk through --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 16:08, November 20, 2009 (UTC) | | | Text = I suggest that we place your guide at [[Dereth Exploration/Markers by Efficiency]] or some other appropriate title, and we move the current listing to [[Dereth Exploration/Markers by Month]]. Then we place links to both in the walk through --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 16:08, November 20, 2009 (UTC) |
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| <center><font color=red>Note: patches not archived until all markers from that month are discovered</font></center>
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| === Cogs in the Machine ===
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| ==== Found Markers ====
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| {{MPP Loc | 26.4 | S | 97.0 | E | Exmark | 26.4S, 97.0E - Cogs in the Machine (Sky Diver)}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 42.9 | N | 66.9 | W | Exmark | 42.9N, 66.9W - Cogs in the Machine (Sky Diver)}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 84.4 | N | 45.7 | E | Exmark | 84.4N, 45.7E - Cogs in the Machine (Sky Diver)}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 25.8 | S | 46.9 | W | Exmark | 25.8S, 46.9W - Cogs in the Machine (Sky Diver)}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 89.3 | S | 86.7 | E | Exmark | 89.3S, 86.7E - Cogs in the Machine (Sky Diver)}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 88.8 | N | 67.6 | W | Exmark | 88.8N, 67.6W - Cogs in the Machine}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 53.7 | N | 24.2 | E | Exmark | 53.7N, 24.2E- Cogs in the Machine}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 09.4 | S | 72.0 | W | Exmark | 9.4S, 72.0W - Cogs in the Machine}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 84.8 | S | 65.4 | W | Exmark | 84.8N, 65.4W - Cogs in the Machine}}
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| ==== Discussion ====
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| ==== Cogs in the Machine Checked Locations ====
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| ''' Sky Diver Theme'''
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| * [[Precarious Sojourn]] - entrance near Al-Jalima and platforms in Dires
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| * [[Crystal Mines]] floating platforms
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| * [[Aerbax's Citadel]]
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| * Floating Advocate Spire - South of Teth, accessed via floating city
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| * [[Bound Wisp Quest]]
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| * Ithaenc Lighthouse - 81.8S, 88.2E
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| * Aerlinthe Harbor east lighthouse
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| * black kill lich lighthouse
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| * Halaetan Lighthouse
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| === Reclamation ===
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| ==== Found Markers ====
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| {{MPP Loc | 97.3 | N | 03.6 | E | Exmark | 97.3N, 3.6E - Reclamation}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 88.3 | S | 34.0 | E | Exmark | 88.3S, 34.0E - Reclamation}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 21.4 | N | 54.0 | E | Exmark | 21.4N, 54.0E - Reclamation}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 96.2 | N | 60.0 | W | Exmark | 96.2N, 60.0E - Reclamation}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 25.6 | S | 57.6 | E | Exmark | 25.6N, 57.6E - Reclamation}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 80.4 | N | 74.0 | W | Exmark | 80.4N, 74.0W - Reclamation}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 76.0 | S | 67.1 | W | Exmark | 76.0S, 67.1W - Reclamation}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 73.8 | S | 43.9 | W | Exmark | 73.8S, 43.9W - Reclamation}}
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| ==== Discussion ====
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| ==== Reclamation Checked Locations ====
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| === Picking up the Pieces ===
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| ==== Found Markers ====
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| {{MPP Loc | 44.5 | N | 57.4 | E | Exmark | 44.5N, 57.4E - Picking up the Pieces}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 20.9 | S | 60.9 | W | Exmark | 20.9S, 60.9W - Picking up the Pieces}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 22.5 | N | 48.0 | E | Exmark | 22.5N, 48.0E - Picking up the Pieces}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 96.3 | N | 54.6 | E | Exmark | 96.3N, 54.6E - Picking up the Pieces}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 17.0 | S | 61.2 | W | Dungeon | Crystalline Portal 110+ - Picking up the Pieces (Spelunker)}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 64.3 | N | 23.4 | W | Dungeon | The Pit - Picking up the Pieces (Spelunker)}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 89.7 | S | 93.9 | W | Dungeon | Nightmare Gate - Picking up the Pieces (Spelunker)}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 59.9 | N | 71.2 | E | Dungeon | Deeper Catacombs (Black Death Catacombs) - Picking up the Pieces (Spelunker)}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 88.8 | N | 72.6 | W | Dungeon | Eater Pit - Picking up the Pieces (Spelunker)}}
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| ==== Discussion ====
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| | Text = If Turbine is following a pattern, every other month has themed markers. There were several titles added during the month the quest was introduced. Several were the generic explorer titles for finding X number of markers, and the others were the theme reward titles. The only two possible theme titles left from that first patch are Daredevil and Spelunker.
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| I can guess that Spelunker either means inside caves (the landscape object) or inside dungeons. Going on that plus the ulgrim hints, I went to his island and checked out his dungeon, but didn't find a marker.
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| I really don't know what Daredevil could be, other than dangerous locations, or locations involving heights/jumps.
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| --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 17:04, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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| | Text = 5 Markers found, no title hint yet. Either this means some (up to 3) of the markers are actually from last patch, or (coincidentally) only the none-title ones have been found, or there is no theme.
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| This would mean, however, a break in the pattern of themed-no/themed markers. Until now we had (trying to summarize :) ):
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| # Mountain Climber (5 themed) - January Patch
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| # Amateur Explorer (20 Markers found) - February Patch
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| # Party Goer (5 themed) - March Patch
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| # Experienced Explorer (40 Markers found) - April Patch
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| # Crater Crasher (5 themed) - May Patch
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| # Adept Explorer (60 Markers found) - June Patch
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| This leaves (undiscovered titles from portal.dat of January Patch):
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| # Daredevil, Sky Diver or Spelunker - July Patch
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| # Master Explorer (80 found?) - August Patch
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| # Daredevil, Sky Diver or Spelunker - Sept. Patch
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| # Elite Explorer (100 found?) - October Patch
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| The one in the Cave for the PT Olthoi Queen just screams for the "Spelunker" theme, but nogo. The Iceberg one also refers to spelunking...
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| Now, with the Crater Crasher theme, the one in the Aerlinthe Caldera was also screaming to be a "themed" one, but it was not.
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| So my wild guess at this moment the theme is "Spelunking", but what keeps the title-message from popping up?
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| Until now, we had none at all in dungeons. But both the Iceberg one and the PT Cave suggest it *is* possible for a marker to show up in "open access" dungeons.
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| Just a few ideas which immediately come to mind to this sort of dungeons:
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| * Sword of Bellenesse
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| * Small Mukkir Slayers (Fledgling Mukkir Nests)
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| * Deru Tree
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| * Snake Tunnels (Radiant Mana Infusion)
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| * Tracing the Stone dungeon in GY
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| * Both "Deep"s (ok, small spelunks, but still)
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| * The Tusker Emporium on AL
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| * Old Scratchy's Cave
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| If anyone remembers by heart where there were more of the "open access" dungeons.. I'm gonna start with the ones I listed.
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| --[[User:Sanddh|Sanddh]] 17:27, 25 July 2009 (CET)
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| | Text = Well Spelunker is the theme this month. I think it will be pretty hard considering the one known spelunker marker is deep within a dungeon. Now, since spelunking literally means exploring caves, should we limit ourselves to the natural cave-like dungeons or not? There are some obvious dungeons that would be good to check like Adventurer's Haven and Subway, but they are not natural cave structures.
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| --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 18:43, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
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| | Text = Looks like my hunch was a good one. I found a marker in the BDC deeper catacombs. I did a partial check of the BDC and the Catacombs of opposition, but I didn't find anything and wouldn't expect to with the marker I found.
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| With the spelunker markers found so far, it looks like any dungeon could have a marker - its not limited to caves/natural dungeons, or original dungeons, or anything.
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| I have no idea where to check. But, if I had to start somewhere, I might go with dungeons in the a'mun desert or the blackmire swamp, since those areas are the most barren on the overall marker map.
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| --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 20:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
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| | Text = I've confirmed that the 5th exploration marker is in the [[Eater Pit]]. This dungeon can only be entered while doing the [[Knights of Karlun Quest]], which can only be completed once.
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| --[[User:Widgeon|Widgeon]] 15:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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| | Text = sometimes, I feel the devs have no clue wtf they are doing. this is one of those times. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 18:56, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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| ==== Picking up the Pieces Checked Locations ====
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| '''Spelunker Theme'''
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| * Cave (Inside and both Eastham and Isle of Tears entrances)
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| * Seaside Lair (in + out)
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| * A Cave AKA Tibri's Cave (in + out)
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| * Lakeside Lair (in + out)
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| * Cave AKA Tumerok Overlord Cave (out)
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| * Shoushi Grotto - outside
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| * Small Fledgeling Mukkir Nests (Holtburg, Shousi, Yaraq) out and a bit in
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| * A Mossy Cave (Shoushi)
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| * The Deep Dark Isle
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| * Tusker Emporium (out and a bit in)
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| * Adventurer's Haven (in + out)
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| * Abandoned Mine AKA Subway (in + out)
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| * Mount Lethe Magma Tubes (in + out)
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| * Underground Forest (in + out)
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| * Glenden Wood Dungeon (cave area only)
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| * Mattekar Caves (in + out)
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| * Rat King's Cave (in + out)
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| * Small Icecave (in + out)
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| * Grievver Cave (in + out)
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| * A Small Cave (in + out)
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| * Lost City of Frore & Mountain Cave (did not check some side paths in the Mountain Cave)
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| * Olthoi Arcade (all the way to the end, but did not check some side paths)
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| * Olthoi Chasm (all the way to the end, but did not check some side paths)
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| * Blightfinger's Warrens
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| * Forking Trail (in + out)
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| * Crater Caves (most of it)
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| * Crater Pathway
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| * Mysterious Cave
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| * Inner Dungeon
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| * Eastham Sewers
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| * Simple Tower (in + out)
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| * Lugian Post (in + out)
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| * Tumerok Outpost at 23.8N 36.5W
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| * Artifex Vault
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| * All 4 Major Stone Vaults (Serac/Jahannan/Incunabula/Amperehelion)
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| '''Other POIs'''
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| * Ulgrim's Isle + Basement (based on Ulgrim hints)
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| * Chalicmere Castle
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| * Walled Portals
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| * Outside Accursed Hall
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| * 23.1S, 72.0W - Tumerok Dires Fort
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| * 26.5S, 65.5W - Platform/LS
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| * 25.2S, 53.1W - Blacksmith/Hut/LS
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| * 27.0S, 56.0W - East Dires shipwreck
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| * 25.8S, 46.9W - East Dires Great Lighthouse
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| * 45.1S, 83.1W - Renegade Castle
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| * 44.5S, 83.4W - Undead Tomb
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| * 43.6S, 83.1W - Tower and Cragstone Portal
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| * 48.6S, 60.0E - Baishi Fort
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| * Mt Lethe drop area
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| * 23.4S, 92.2W - West Dires shipwreck
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| * 22.8S, 91.9W - Seaside Tower
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| * Direlands Subway surface area + some interior
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| * Leikotha's Crypt
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| * Grievver Valley
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| === Old Ghosts ===
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| ==== Found Markers ====
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| {{MPP Loc | 21.3 | N | 69.3 | E | Exmark | 21.3N, 69.3E - Old Ghosts}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 92.8 | S | 52.8 | W | Exmark | 92.8S, 52.8W - Old Ghosts}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 38.3 | S | 34.5 | E | Exmark | 38.3S, 34.5E - Old Ghosts}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 51.2 | N | 76.3 | W | Exmark | 51.2N, 76.3W - Old Ghosts}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 94.2 | N | 43.0 | W | Exmark | 94.2N, 43.0W - Old Ghosts}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 95.0 | N | 47.1 | W | Exmark | 95.0N, 47.1W - Old Ghosts}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 94.1 | S | 11.1 | W | Exmark | 94.1S, 11.1W - Old Ghosts}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 26.7 | S | 51.0 | E | Exmark | 1.4S, 71.9E - Old Ghosts}}
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| {{MPP Loc | 83.5 | S | 67.8 | W | Exmark | 83.5S, 67.8W - Old Ghosts}}
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| ==== Discussion ====
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| ==== Old Ghosts Checked Locations ====
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| * All POIs, portals, and dungeon entrances on Vissidal
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| * Drunken Mad Man Tower
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| * South Shore Heights portal near Baishi + drop
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| * 77.3S, 38.8E - Three Standing Stones
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| * 79.8S, 47.1E - Two Pillars
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| * 78.1S, 48.7E - Abandoned Tower
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| * 78.7S, 48.7E - Lifestone
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| * 88.2S, 47.2E - Empyrean Building (near Lyceum)
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| * 82.1S, 63.7E - South Shore merchant camp
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| * 84.0S, 66.2E - Strange beach landscape formation
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| * South Osteth Shore from approx. 89.3S, 48.8E to 78.6S, 69.0E
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