Category talk:Asheron's Call

--Tlosk 10:55, 2 March 2008 (CST)
I mocked up a complete Category listing on the article page. I decided to merge Clothing into the Armor category since there's some overlap with things like robes and masks.

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--Tlosk 12:06, 29 February 2008 (CST)
I should add that by default I don't mean that every category has to be that way, just that when it could easily go either way, should it be singular or plural. I'm sure there will be lots of exceptions to whatever we decide.

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--Tlosk 12:01, 29 February 2008 (CST)
Good ideas on the hierarchy. The subcategories aren't made explicitly, rather they are an emergent property, which isn't obvious unless you look for it. That's to say, something becomes a subcategory when the category page has a category tag of its own embedded. Where it can get confusing is where we also have entries that mirror the category name which also have the category tag. You can see how I dealt with the double listing issue on Category:Monster Types.

An example of creating a subcategory with relevant embedded tag after each:

• Category:Monster Types
  • Category:Drudge [[Category:Monster Types]]
    • Drudge Mystic [[Category:Drudge]]

So now the category Drudge is a subcategory of Monster Types

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here's an idea for the basic category/sub category list:

• patch
• Character Template
• Page Template
• Quest
• Killtask

• Creature
  • Armoredillo
  • Banderling
  • Burun
    • Ruuk
    • Guruk
    • Kukuur
  • ...

• Weapon
  • Dagger
  • Bow
  • Caster
  • ...

• Armor
  • Head Armor (remove/replace helms category)
  • Shield
  • Upper Body Armor
  • ...

• NPC
  • Shopkeeper
  • Quest NPC
  • Crafter

• Jewelry
  • Ring
  • Bracelet
  • Necklace

• Clothing
  • Shirt
  • Pants
  • Full Body
  • Masks and Guises (Mask/Guise?)

• Crafting
  • Cooking
  • Alchemy
  • Fletching
  • Item Tinkering
  • ...

• Location
  • Dungeon
  • Town
  • Point of Interest
  • ...

• Lore
  • Text

One thing I'm not sure where to place would be the "Item" category. Nearly everything would be a subcategory of item. Although that might not be a horrible thing.

--An Adventurer 09:55, 29 February 2008 (CST)

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I don't really care either way. On a single page, the singular would look better I think, for example a shield says category:Shield. But on the category page, the plural would look better, since it is a list of shields, not a list of shield. But... plural could be confusing for things with odd plurals like sclavi, thrungum (I believe that is the plural of thrungus used in a text).

I guess I would say go with singular.

Also, how do we make subcategories? I had never used a wiki before this one, so a lot of this is still new to me.

--An Adventurer 09:40, 29 February 2008 (CST)

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--Tlosk 06:20, 29 February 2008 (CST)
This is probably one of those arbitrary decisions which means there's probably not a completely compelling reason to do it either way but it would probably be a good idea to come to a consensus on whether the default for a category should be singular or plural. There's probably going to be some that will always sound better one way over the other, like "Patch" vs "Patches" and "Town" vs "Towns" but to avoid overlapping categories as much as possible it might be helpful to have a default. So that unless there's a reason to do otherwise, when making a new category (or cleaning up old ones where both variants exist) to have a default. My own vote would probably be to go singular. I won't change any existing categories until we reach a consensus and then we can add a line to the Help page on categories for new posters. Or maybe it's just too arbitrary to even have a default.

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--Tlosk 05:59, 29 February 2008 (CST)
This list is primarily intended as a resource for identifying categories that have overlap and might be merged, categories that already exist if you're thinking of making a new one, and areas that might need work.