Talk:Spells: Difference between revisions

Revision as of 18:35, 18 December 2008

Listing of Cantrips

I believe I have a solution for the listing of cantrips. We will simply use the same system as my standard spell sorting system. Every cantrip, regardless of what cantrip tier/category it belongs to, will redirect to a page for the stat it effects.

So for example - Minor Focus, Moderate Focus, Major Focus, Epic Focus, Brilliance, Concentration, and any other spell that effects focus and stacks with standard spells will redirect to [[Focus (Cantrip)]]. We will then need to create a page template for cantrips, but it is on this page that we would list the full stacking effects. --An Adventurer 15:22, 15 November 2008 (CST)

I've found some cantrips that have spell entries already, like Prodigal Strength. I went ahead and redirected Prodigal Strength to Strength (Cantrip), and also copied the spell description, etc... over to that page. Can you take a look and make sure this is how we want to do it before I start migrating all these spells over? Perhaps we should come up with a standardized Cantrip Template before moving all these over.

Also, I think the Spell Stacking section that is currently on the Strength page, might get lost in the shuffle if we are using both pages to track Spell Stacking. Perhaps we should put Spell Stacking on the Strength (Spell) page and Cantrip Stacking on the Strength (Cantrip) page. This way we can just link to both from the Strength page, and its easier to update in the future. What do you think? --Atarax 11:45, 18 December 2008 (CST)

My thoughts are this: Every standard spell and anything that is in the same category (ie: Tusker beers, forges in towns, etc) will redirect to that spells page, such as Strength (Spell). All cantrips, regardless of how they stack, will redirect to the cantrip page. Standard spell stacking is listed on the spell page, cantrip stacking is listed on the cantrip page. This way, each attribute/skill/stat will only require 2 spell pages, standard spell and cantrip. Both pages will link to each other. The attribute/skill/stat page links to the spell/cantrip pages. The standard name will be a disambiguation page, for example, Strength will have links to Strength (Attribute), Strength (Spell), and Strength (Cantrip).

I am going to continue working on the redirects in the Sandbox. One important thing to note, if you make redirects. On the whatlinkshere page, redirects are listed in the order they were created. So please create redirects in this order: other 1-8, self 1-8. For cantrips, I would redirect them in this order: minor, mod, major, epic, rare, then any quest/unique cantrips should be created in the order they were added to the game. If you make a mistake, I would think deleting the pages and recreating the redirects should fix it, but I have not tested this yet.

We will need a standard cantrip template, but it is not currently needed to make redirects. For now, just list the spell names and descriptions on the cantrip page if you feel it is needed. --An Adventurer 12:35, 18 December 2008 (CST)

Spells as Entries

I have come up with a solution to finding spells on items. Every spell listed on an item will be a link. By going to the spell's page, you can click on the what links here to find all items with that spell. The task now is to update all old items, and also create spell pages. --An Adventurer 19:48, 20 October 2008 (CDT)

Update: Standard Spell Template is complete. The Sandbox is currently being used to create redirect pages for all standard spells. --An Adventurer 15:22, 15 November 2008 (CST)

Old Discussion

Should we change the quest spell section to link to the category, quest spell? Quest Spells --Jedismj 01:02, 31 August 2008 (CDT)

The format looks great, very clean and readable. --Tlosk 08:52, 18 August 2008 (CDT)

Gouru Format for Critter spells look good to me. Please be sure to login when doing edits :)

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 So for example - Minor Focus, Moderate Focus, Major Focus, Epic Focus, Brilliance, Concentration, and any other spell that effects focus and stacks with standard spells will redirect to <nowiki>[[Focus (Cantrip)]]</nowiki>. We will then need to create a page template for cantrips, but it is on this page that we would list the full stacking effects. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 15:22, 15 November 2008 (CST)
-:: I've found some cantrips that have spell entries already, like Prodigal Strength.  I went ahead and redirected [[Prodigal Strength]] to [[Strength (Cantrip)]], and also copied the spell description, etc... over to that page.  Can you take a look and make sure this is how we want to do it before I start migrating all these spells over? Perhaps we should come up with a standardized ''Cantrip Template'' before moving all these over.
+: I've found some cantrips that have spell entries already, like Prodigal Strength.  I went ahead and redirected [[Prodigal Strength]] to [[Strength (Cantrip)]], and also copied the spell description, etc... over to that page.  Can you take a look and make sure this is how we want to do it before I start migrating all these spells over? Perhaps we should come up with a standardized ''Cantrip Template'' before moving all these over.
+: Also, I think the ''Spell Stacking'' section that is currently on the [[Strength]] page, might get lost in the shuffle if we are using both pages to track Spell Stacking.  Perhaps we should put ''Spell Stacking'' on the [[Strength (Spell)]] page and ''Cantrip Stacking'' on the [[Strength (Cantrip)]] page.  This way we can just link to both from the [[Strength]] page, and its easier to update in the future.  What do you think? --[[User:Atarax|Atarax]] 11:45, 18 December 2008 (CST)
+::My thoughts are this: Every standard spell and anything that is in the same category (ie: Tusker beers, forges in towns, etc) will redirect to that spells page, such as Strength (Spell). All cantrips, regardless of how they stack, will redirect to the cantrip page. Standard spell stacking is listed on the spell page, cantrip stacking is listed on the cantrip page. This way, each attribute/skill/stat will only require 2 spell pages, standard spell and cantrip. Both pages will link to each other. The attribute/skill/stat page links to the spell/cantrip pages. The standard name will be a disambiguation page, for example, ''Strength'' will have links to ''Strength (Attribute)'', ''Strength (Spell)'',  and ''Strength (Cantrip)''.<br><br>I am going to continue working on the redirects in the [[Sandbox]]. One important thing to note, if you make redirects. On the ''whatlinkshere'' page, redirects are listed in the order they were created. So please create redirects in this order: other 1-8, self 1-8. For cantrips, I would redirect them in this order: minor, mod, major, epic, rare, then any quest/unique cantrips should be created in the order they were added to the game. If you make a mistake, I would think deleting the pages and recreating the redirects should fix it, but I have not tested this yet.<br><br>We will need a standard cantrip template, but it is not currently needed to make redirects. For now, just list the spell names and descriptions on the cantrip page if you feel it is needed. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 12:35, 18 December 2008 (CST)
-:: Also, I think the ''Spell Stacking'' section that is currently on the [[Strength]] page, might get lost in the shuffle if we are using both pages to track Spell Stacking.  Perhaps we should put ''Spell Stacking'' on the [[Strength (Spell)]] page and ''Cantrip Stacking'' on the [[Strength (Cantrip)]] page.  This way we can just link to both from the [[Strength]] page, and its easier to update in the future.  What do you think? --[[User:Atarax|Atarax]] 11:45, 18 December 2008 (CST)
 == Spells as Entries ==