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== Shackles of Obedience ==
You can also PM me on Turbine's [http://forums.ac.turbine.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=18302 forums].
Ooc, how are these related to caul flagging? --[[User:Immortalbob|Immortalbob]] 12:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 
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== page vs category ==
 
Hey, I have noticed that a large number of pages are being moved from wiki pages to categories. Is there a reason for this? While categories are certainly useful since they are automagically maintained, I often found our manually maintained pages more useful.
 
For example, this old page http://ac.wikkii.net/w/index.php?title=Axes&oldid=369603 is much more useful to me, because of the sortable table, than http://ac.wikkii.net/wiki/Category:Heavy_Weapons, which just contains an alphabetical list.
 
Even if, for example, I am specifically looking for base 400 wield heavy weapons, I'd much rather have a sortable table than just the list of links at http://ac.wikkii.net/wiki/Category:Heavy_Weapons:_Wield_400 because a table could contain damage, damage type, special properties, etc.
 
I'm not saying that categories need to go away - they are certainly useful, but the information they present is rather limited.
 
--[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 03:41, 2 March 2014 (EST)
 
== Re:  Tooltips ==
 
Even if the public servers eventually close, an accurate wiki will be vital for the fan-run servers that Sev had talked about in his post. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 07:54, 2 March 2014 (EST)
 
== Quest Guide Item Section ==
 
Hey Ark, I have another question for you.
 
I noticed that recently updated quest guides no longer have an item section, listing all items related to the quest (rumors, keys, rewards, etc). Is there a reason for the removal of this?
 
I've found this section to be useful, especially if I am going to a quest guide specifically to find a quick link to an item. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 05:43, 28 March 2014 (EST)
 
: I think most of the changes made to the quest guides have been good. The shortened and smaller quest summary is a good change.
 
: I guess I just like the visual aspect of icons - its easier for me to recognize, I guess. And I do think that a list of all related items would be useful. For example, there are a large number of intermediary items in the [[Composite Weapons Quest]], and I don't think the guide would be easily rewritten to use a lot of text and tiny icons. Having a complete list of all items related to that quest on that quest's page seems like a useful thing to me. Likewise,
 
: Likewise, I also liked having the dialog from the quest appear in the colors it does in game. I actually recently added to the css so we could use classes instead of inline styling, you can see my examples here: [[User:An_Adventurer/Sandbox_2]]. IMO, visually being able to quickly identify the type of chat message is useful.
 
: As for wikia, no, I don't think I'd want to move back there, but it could be better maintained with more recent backups added so it is available as another resource. We should probably get an email going between the wiki admins to discuss this more. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 04:34, 29 March 2014 (EST)
 
== Images ==
 
I haven't got a confirmation from wikia yet, but our file upload log is filled with uploads from maintenance script, and the spring 2014 patch has most of its images available now. So it looks like we've got wikkii.net as restored as it'll get. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] ([[User talk:An Adventurer|talk]]) 14:28, November 18, 2014 (UTC)
 
: It doesn't look like I can promote users to bots. We'll need to contact Wikia about it, it shouldn't be a big deal. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] ([[User talk:An Adventurer|talk]]) 03:03, November 19, 2014 (UTC)
 
== RE: Bureaucrat status ==
 
Abracadabra! You are now a bureaucrat :) --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] ([[User talk:An Adventurer|talk]]) 14:06, November 21, 2014 (UTC)
 
== Re: Tooltip code ==
 
I figured it was something like that. I just commented out the function. If it is not needed feel free to remove it completely. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] ([[User talk:An Adventurer|talk]]) 18:31, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
 
== re: AC Manual ==
 
Thanks! I was meaning to dig out my ACDM CD and grab the PDF off of that, but this will work too. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] ([[User talk:An Adventurer|talk]]) 19:03, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
 
== Re: Web Archive ==
 
Thanks for the info! Now I don't have to try to find some poor IT person at turbine to bug :P--[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] ([[User talk:An Adventurer|talk]]) 17:40, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
 
== live events ==
 
I really like the work you are doing on all the old story arc live events. Keep it up! --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] ([[User talk:An Adventurer|talk]]) 13:35, June 12, 2015 (UTC)
 
:'''Re: Live Events:'''
:Personally, I think that any live event that related to the overall story should be listed on the [[Live Event]] page under the story arc that they are a part of, regardless of how major or minor an event it was. My reason for saying this is someone may be interested in that story arc, and want to know all they can about it, so it makes sense to have all the live events for it together.
 
:Live events that were unrelated to any story arc should be listed on the Live Events Year page (e.g. [[2009 Live Events]]). This would be events like  a +Turbine logging in and spawning monsters for fun, various non-serious live events (xmas, april fools, easter, Mr. P, etc), or the Jolt ran events that were sometimes lore related but not actually part of the current story arc.
 
:As for triggered events, the line between quest and live event is a little fuzzy. I'm not entirely sure how to handle these, but my gut reaction is  to have the triggered event listed as a live event, with whatever details are pertinent to the first time it became available listed there, and then have the guide/write up listed on a quest page. An example of this would be the [[The Soul Crystal of the Dark Isle]] (Live Event) and [[Raising Grael's Island]] (Quest Guide).
 
:As for various NPCs, I've always felt it best to have every instance of an NPC listed. All of these various listings would be linked together via the ''character's'' page (e.g. [[Hoshino Kei]]), under the '''Appearances in game''' section. The reason this is that we want to be able to talk about and link to specific instances of a character. Aerfalle is a good example of this, where there have been several unique versions of her as both a Creature and an NPC.
 
:Now, when it comes to the Unwed and Wed Hoshino Kei entries, maybe those should be merged together into [[Hoshino Kei (Wedding)]] since they are both from the same event, and are both identical except in title. I can't think of a need to link to one of those pages and not the other.
 
:--[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] ([[User talk:An Adventurer|talk]]) 19:47, July 3, 2015 (UTC)
 
== Introducing New Gaming Footers ==
 
__NOTOC__<div style="margin-top:25px; font-size:19pt; text-align:center;">'''Game Footers'''</div>
 
 
The new game footers are brought to you by [http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Encyclopedia_Gamia Encyclopedia Gamia] and our very own [http://gameshub.wikia.com/wiki/Games_Hub Games Hub]. The basic goal is simple: draw together Wikia communities in one location that enjoy the same genres and hopefully expose them to some new games and communities they might be interested in. Our secondary goal is to try and connect editors looking for help with members and administrators from other wikias who are interested in helping them out, whether it be with content, technical knowledge, or insight gleaned from running a community.
 
<div style="margin-top:25px; font-size:19pt; text-align:center;">'''How do I get my site included in the Wikia games footer?'''</div>
 
 
If you haven't already been approached, feel free to include your site in the submission section below in the genre you feel is most appropriate for the game you cover. Note that, with rare exception, a game should only be placed in one footer.
 
Here are some other things to consider:
 
*A member or members of the site should be willing to help those that might ask for assistance in creating their own wikia. Obviously this is at member discretion; members aren't absolutely required to answer every request for help, nor should they if the query is unrealistic and/or no one has the know-how.
 
*Any site participating in the footer will have a page created on the [http://gameshub.wikia.com/wiki/Games_Hub Games Hub] for their franchise for more exposure. Members are encouraged to double-check this entry once it is live and may take ownership of the page.
 
*Any site participating in the footer will have each individual game in their franchise created on [http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Encyclopedia_Gamia Encyclopedia Gamia] for more exposure. Members are encouraged to double-check these entries once they are live and may take ownership of the pages.
 
*Backgrounds are transparent and links/text are set to match the site's settings.
 
*The new footers are mobile-friendly.
 
*Though intended to stretch the entire width of a main page, the footer can also fit into the left rail, if so desired.
 
<div style="margin-top:25px; font-size:19pt; text-align:center;">'''My game's genre isn't included.'''</div>


== Small Icecave ==
The dungeon is called Small Icecave, not Small Ice Cave. See [[:File:Small Icecave.jpg]] --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 17:16, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


== Old Patches ==
In most cases a game can fit into multiple categories, so the best should be chosen when possible that most closely matches the genre. Rogue-like games, for instance, aren't included because many games feature stealth elements. Instead, they can be found within the Action-Adventure footer.
In general yeah, keep the formatting the same as it appeared originally, but it's not essential. You can enclose the link in nowiki tags, however as soon as I get #tag working it won't be necessary and dead links will automatically appear as plain text instead of as a link as they do now. For teaser images, move them to the teaser images section of the announcements page rather than including them in the body of the teaser. But you can still include a table when needed, just substitute {{tl|!}} for pipes ( | ). For tables of data though it can be easier to make a page for the table and transclude it, like was done [[Announcements - 2004/04 - A New Threat#Letter to the Players|here]]. But the templates are meant to be useful, if things get more complicated with them than they are worth for any particular page it's better to just use manual formatting, I'm in the process of making a section at the bottom of [[Archive of Internet Article Template]] for that (along with all the other template pages).


Even though they may not have standardized sections, feel free to add anything else to the announcements page that fits, just give it a new section. For example the additional sections on [[Announcements - 2004/03 - Across the Vast Divide]]. But some things won't fit in and should be a separate page with [[:Category:Turbine]], one of it's subcategories, or [[:Category:Internet Lore Article]]. --[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 13:08, 8 April 2009 (CDT)
Should the situation arise where another footer is potentially needed, one may be created, but only if 1) the genre can't be included in any other category and 2) there are enough games for the footer.


== Quest Guides ==
<div style="margin-top:25px; font-size:19pt; text-align:center;">'''I already have a footer.'''</div>
Hey Tiger. I see you have been putting together a lot of guides for older quests. You are using the older quest guide template for them. The new template code is located here: [[Quest Guide Template]], with an example here: [[Frore]]. If you want to continue using the older template, that is fine - any guide is better than none - but those pages will have to be updated later to fit the new template, so it'd save time later to start off with the new one. thanks. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 17:40, 21 March 2009 (CDT)
: Great work on the material you've been adding. The templates are new and we're all using them for the first time now so if anything doesn't work as you expect it to let me know, we're still tweaking them (in a couple days once all the kinks have been worked out we'll be releasing a new version of the swiss tool that will include the new  templates. --[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 08:43, 22 March 2009 (CDT)


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Hello, welcome to the Wiki. To help us keep the wiki cleaned up, please [[Page Templates]] when creating articles, and proper naming formats and image sizes when adding/updating images:
For footers that were created and maintained by Wikia staff, these will be replaced with the new footers.
* Live Images must be named '''Article Name Live.jpg''' (JPG image, Case Sensitive), and are 200x300px, 300x300px, or 300x400px exactly.
 
* Stats Panel Images must be named '''Article Name.jpg''' (JPG image, Case Sensitive), and are typically 300x400px or 300x300px for short items.  Longer items are 300x???px (depending on length).
Footers created by users will not be touched at this time.
* Icon Images must be named '''Article Name Icon.png''' (PNG image, Case Sensitive), and are 32x32px exactly.
 
<div style="margin-top:25px; font-size:19pt; text-align:center;">'''[http://gameshub.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Raylan13/Introducing_New_Gaming_Footers Submit your site!]'''</div>
 
 
[[User:Raylan13|<b>Raylan13</b>]]<staff/> ([[User talk:Raylan13|<font size="1">talk</font>]]) 20:20, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
 
== splash screen redirects ==
 
Hey Ark, the redirects you've done for the most recent patches don't work for me. When I go to the [[May 2015 Patch]], I just see a broken image under the Previous Patch / All Patches / Next Patch links. Is it displaying correctly for you? --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] ([[User talk:An Adventurer|talk]]) 03:06, February 5, 2016 (UTC)
 
:Thanks Ark, I am seeing the slash screens now. Have a good day :) --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] ([[User talk:An Adventurer|talk]]) 15:25, February 7, 2016 (UTC)


'''Note''': To help you easily create images of the proper names and formats, please download our [[Wiki Swiss Tool]].  Among other things, the Wiki Swiss Tool includes the ability to crop images to many of the Wiki-Standard sizes and formats. Check it out!
== Ancient Powers Rollback ==


Thanks again for your contributions! --[[User:Atarax|Atarax]] 10:53, 12 February 2009 (CST)
Hey Arkalor, I had to roll back the [[Ancient Powers]] patch page. I noticed that your last revision (from feb 4 2016) replaced all the content for this page with the content from the [[Gears of Change]] patch. I'm guessing you were doing some tidying or restructuring of the page and copy/pasted the wrong page in?  Anyway, you may want to take a look at it and see if there are some changes you want to make. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] ([[User talk:An Adventurer|talk]]) 04:15, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 04:15, 2 March 2016

You can also PM me on Turbine's forums.


page vs category Edit

Hey, I have noticed that a large number of pages are being moved from wiki pages to categories. Is there a reason for this? While categories are certainly useful since they are automagically maintained, I often found our manually maintained pages more useful.

For example, this old page http://ac.wikkii.net/w/index.php?title=Axes&oldid=369603 is much more useful to me, because of the sortable table, than http://ac.wikkii.net/wiki/Category:Heavy_Weapons, which just contains an alphabetical list.

Even if, for example, I am specifically looking for base 400 wield heavy weapons, I'd much rather have a sortable table than just the list of links at http://ac.wikkii.net/wiki/Category:Heavy_Weapons:_Wield_400 because a table could contain damage, damage type, special properties, etc.

I'm not saying that categories need to go away - they are certainly useful, but the information they present is rather limited.

--An Adventurer 03:41, 2 March 2014 (EST)

Re: Tooltips Edit

Even if the public servers eventually close, an accurate wiki will be vital for the fan-run servers that Sev had talked about in his post. --An Adventurer 07:54, 2 March 2014 (EST)

Quest Guide Item Section Edit

Hey Ark, I have another question for you.

I noticed that recently updated quest guides no longer have an item section, listing all items related to the quest (rumors, keys, rewards, etc). Is there a reason for the removal of this?

I've found this section to be useful, especially if I am going to a quest guide specifically to find a quick link to an item. --An Adventurer 05:43, 28 March 2014 (EST)

I think most of the changes made to the quest guides have been good. The shortened and smaller quest summary is a good change.
I guess I just like the visual aspect of icons - its easier for me to recognize, I guess. And I do think that a list of all related items would be useful. For example, there are a large number of intermediary items in the Composite Weapons Quest, and I don't think the guide would be easily rewritten to use a lot of text and tiny icons. Having a complete list of all items related to that quest on that quest's page seems like a useful thing to me. Likewise,
Likewise, I also liked having the dialog from the quest appear in the colors it does in game. I actually recently added to the css so we could use classes instead of inline styling, you can see my examples here: User:An_Adventurer/Sandbox_2. IMO, visually being able to quickly identify the type of chat message is useful.
As for wikia, no, I don't think I'd want to move back there, but it could be better maintained with more recent backups added so it is available as another resource. We should probably get an email going between the wiki admins to discuss this more. --An Adventurer 04:34, 29 March 2014 (EST)

Images Edit

I haven't got a confirmation from wikia yet, but our file upload log is filled with uploads from maintenance script, and the spring 2014 patch has most of its images available now. So it looks like we've got wikkii.net as restored as it'll get. --An Adventurer (talk) 14:28, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

It doesn't look like I can promote users to bots. We'll need to contact Wikia about it, it shouldn't be a big deal. --An Adventurer (talk) 03:03, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Bureaucrat status Edit

Abracadabra! You are now a bureaucrat :) --An Adventurer (talk) 14:06, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Tooltip code Edit

I figured it was something like that. I just commented out the function. If it is not needed feel free to remove it completely. --An Adventurer (talk) 18:31, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

re: AC Manual Edit

Thanks! I was meaning to dig out my ACDM CD and grab the PDF off of that, but this will work too. --An Adventurer (talk) 19:03, March 19, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Web Archive Edit

Thanks for the info! Now I don't have to try to find some poor IT person at turbine to bug :P--An Adventurer (talk) 17:40, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

live events Edit

I really like the work you are doing on all the old story arc live events. Keep it up! --An Adventurer (talk) 13:35, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Live Events:
Personally, I think that any live event that related to the overall story should be listed on the Live Event page under the story arc that they are a part of, regardless of how major or minor an event it was. My reason for saying this is someone may be interested in that story arc, and want to know all they can about it, so it makes sense to have all the live events for it together.
Live events that were unrelated to any story arc should be listed on the Live Events Year page (e.g. 2009 Live Events). This would be events like a +Turbine logging in and spawning monsters for fun, various non-serious live events (xmas, april fools, easter, Mr. P, etc), or the Jolt ran events that were sometimes lore related but not actually part of the current story arc.
As for triggered events, the line between quest and live event is a little fuzzy. I'm not entirely sure how to handle these, but my gut reaction is to have the triggered event listed as a live event, with whatever details are pertinent to the first time it became available listed there, and then have the guide/write up listed on a quest page. An example of this would be the The Soul Crystal of the Dark Isle (Live Event) and Raising Grael's Island (Quest Guide).
As for various NPCs, I've always felt it best to have every instance of an NPC listed. All of these various listings would be linked together via the character's page (e.g. Hoshino Kei), under the Appearances in game section. The reason this is that we want to be able to talk about and link to specific instances of a character. Aerfalle is a good example of this, where there have been several unique versions of her as both a Creature and an NPC.
Now, when it comes to the Unwed and Wed Hoshino Kei entries, maybe those should be merged together into Hoshino Kei (Wedding) since they are both from the same event, and are both identical except in title. I can't think of a need to link to one of those pages and not the other.
--An Adventurer (talk) 19:47, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

Introducing New Gaming Footers Edit

Game Footers


The new game footers are brought to you by Encyclopedia Gamia and our very own Games Hub. The basic goal is simple: draw together Wikia communities in one location that enjoy the same genres and hopefully expose them to some new games and communities they might be interested in. Our secondary goal is to try and connect editors looking for help with members and administrators from other wikias who are interested in helping them out, whether it be with content, technical knowledge, or insight gleaned from running a community.

How do I get my site included in the Wikia games footer?


If you haven't already been approached, feel free to include your site in the submission section below in the genre you feel is most appropriate for the game you cover. Note that, with rare exception, a game should only be placed in one footer.

Here are some other things to consider:

  • A member or members of the site should be willing to help those that might ask for assistance in creating their own wikia. Obviously this is at member discretion; members aren't absolutely required to answer every request for help, nor should they if the query is unrealistic and/or no one has the know-how.
  • Any site participating in the footer will have a page created on the Games Hub for their franchise for more exposure. Members are encouraged to double-check this entry once it is live and may take ownership of the page.
  • Any site participating in the footer will have each individual game in their franchise created on Encyclopedia Gamia for more exposure. Members are encouraged to double-check these entries once they are live and may take ownership of the pages.
  • Backgrounds are transparent and links/text are set to match the site's settings.
  • The new footers are mobile-friendly.
  • Though intended to stretch the entire width of a main page, the footer can also fit into the left rail, if so desired.
My game's genre isn't included.


In most cases a game can fit into multiple categories, so the best should be chosen when possible that most closely matches the genre. Rogue-like games, for instance, aren't included because many games feature stealth elements. Instead, they can be found within the Action-Adventure footer.

Should the situation arise where another footer is potentially needed, one may be created, but only if 1) the genre can't be included in any other category and 2) there are enough games for the footer.

I already have a footer.


For footers that were created and maintained by Wikia staff, these will be replaced with the new footers.

Footers created by users will not be touched at this time.


Raylan13<staff/> (talk) 20:20, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

splash screen redirects Edit

Hey Ark, the redirects you've done for the most recent patches don't work for me. When I go to the May 2015 Patch, I just see a broken image under the Previous Patch / All Patches / Next Patch links. Is it displaying correctly for you? --An Adventurer (talk) 03:06, February 5, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Ark, I am seeing the slash screens now. Have a good day :) --An Adventurer (talk) 15:25, February 7, 2016 (UTC)

Ancient Powers Rollback Edit

Hey Arkalor, I had to roll back the Ancient Powers patch page. I noticed that your last revision (from feb 4 2016) replaced all the content for this page with the content from the Gears of Change patch. I'm guessing you were doing some tidying or restructuring of the page and copy/pasted the wrong page in? Anyway, you may want to take a look at it and see if there are some changes you want to make. --An Adventurer (talk) 04:15, March 2, 2016 (UTC)